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'Callous' India faces shame over ignored crash victims
« on: April 17, 2013, 02:29:59 PM »
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/callous-india-faces-shame-over-ignored-crash-victims-073459312.html

India embarked on a bout of soul-searching Tuesday over a shocking video showing passersby ignoring the pleas of a desperate father after his wife and daughter were killed in a road accident.

The CCTV footage surfaced late Monday showing the man cradling his injured son next to his overturned motorbike and calling for help from other motorists as his wife and eight-month-old daughter lay bloodied on the road.

Police say he was ignored for 40 minutes inside a newly built tunnel in the city of Jaipur, 250 kilometres (150 miles) south-west of the capital, with a stream of cars, buses and motorbikes driving past.

"That kind of failure is very, very common on the roads," said campaigner Mridul Bhasin who works for the Muskaan road safety group.

"This is happening day in, day out every minute in our country. People die and we turn blind eye and go where we need to go," Bhasin told cable channel CNN-IBN.

The Mail Today tabloid daily headlined "Callous India drives past mishap victims," while The Hindu newspaper said the incident had "brought to life civilian apathy".

"It's the duty of all people to take such victims to hospital because lives could be saved," Jaipur traffic police chief Lata Manoj said in a televised interview.

A worker in a toll booth noticed the stricken family and called the police, who arrived on the scene and transferred the mother and daughter to the SMS hospital in Jaipur.

Dr D.S. Meena, in charge of the SMS emergency unit, said that they had died before arriving.
"The situation might have been better if they were provided medical help in time," he said.
The man and his son, who suffered light injuries, were discharged.

The accident also spotlighted the routine flouting of traffic regulations -- the motorbike was carrying four people without helmets and was travelling in the tunnel despite a ban on two-wheelers.

The family were knocked off the bike after a collision with a truck, which drove off without stopping, police say.

Using the CCTV footage which showed the registration plates, police are now hunting for the truck driver.

Prabhu Dayal, an uncle of the dead woman, blamed the deaths on public indifference.

"Her husband cried for help for 40 minutes but no-one stopped. It's shameful that apathy took two lives," he told AFP.
The situation has echoes of similar incidents in neighbouring China. In 2011, a toddler in eastern Zhejiang province was struck by two vehicles and lay dying on the street while at least 18 people walked past.

Public apathy in India was brought into sharp relief in December when a 23-year-old gang-rape victim was also ignored by bystanders after she had been stripped and dumped on a New Delhi street.

Many pointed out that fear of the police was a major deterrent because anyone who stops to help is often dragged into the legal case, or even implicated in the crime.

"Following the gang-rape we did an online survey about why people don't help victims of violence and accidents," said Apurva Mahendra of the Delhi-based SaveLIFE Foundation, which encourages bystanders to offer assistance.

"We found legal issues such as being required to appear in court as witnesses are major deterrents for good Samaritans to come forward to help such victims," said Mahendra, who heads the privately run agency's emergency response programme.

A total of 131,834 people died in road accidents in India in 2011 -- which works out at 15 an hour, according to the government's National Crime Records Bureau.

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Re: 'Callous' India faces shame over ignored crash victims
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2013, 04:21:30 PM »
I have one word for you, just one word.

Liability.

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Re: 'Callous' India faces shame over ignored crash victims
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2013, 05:29:55 PM »
...which relates directly to this quote from the article:
Many pointed out that fear of the police was a major deterrent because anyone who stops to help is often dragged into the legal case, or even implicated in the crime.

This attitude is also found here in the U.S.  Depending on the severity of the accident or crime, you'll tend to find fewer and fewer people who admit to seeing anything out of fear for being tied to the event.

My father had first-hand exposure to something like this many years ago.  His car was hit as part of a 3-way traffic accident.  Car A slammed into Car B which proceeded to graze his car (C).  Driver of car B was seriously injured from the crash.  My father gave his full account to the officer and later contacted his own insurance company regarding the minor damage his vehicle had sustained, but it was too minor to be covered.  After several days, the insurance company of driver B contacted my father and began to accuse him of being at fault for the accident, claiming that they had a police report that showed he had admitted being responsible for the collision.  My dad assumed that it must be a mistake on the police report.  The harassment didn't end there as he started getting repeated calls from insurance company B as well as lawyers representing driver B.  They even claimed they had a witness had seen my father drinking at the bar prior to the crash.  (This was rather ironic since my father is allergic to alcohol)  My father was forced to obtain the legit copy of the police report in order to have proof of his innocence.  (In those days, it was not uncommon to not get a full accident report like they provide each driver nowadays.)

After he got the full report, he discovered that the driver of Car A had no insurance, and was driving without a license (under age).  Apparently this harassment tactic was/is common when insurance companies go fishing for ways to escape making payments they're supposed to.  Had my father admitted any wrong-doing at all, they would have had an angle to go after my father's insurance to pay for their client instead.  Needless to say, once he was armed with the information, he forwarded it on to his own insurance company and they sent a fiery response back to insurance company B, and all the harassing calls from driver B's insurance company and lawyers came to an abrupt halt.

It used to be common practice to stop if there was an accident to offer help, but after cases like that, it's not surprising that almost nobody does anymore unless they're directly involved.  In fact, unless there's significant damage to one or both cars, many minor traffic accidents probably tend to go unreported for these reasons.
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Re: 'Callous' India faces shame over ignored crash victims
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2013, 11:14:55 PM »
I thought the case happened to Kalendraf's dad only happen in Asia :( that's why there was a report on passerby dare not help the victims in China, as you may get sued.

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Re: 'Callous' India faces shame over ignored crash victims
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2013, 11:41:55 PM »
America is an infectiously litigous country, you can get sued (and win) over the silliest things. The classic is how a robber broke into a house, cut his hand on the broken window, sued, and got paid damages. A recent example.
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Re: 'Callous' India faces shame over ignored crash victims
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2013, 02:56:07 AM »
Maybe kindergarten children should be used to replace judges in court. Don't see how it'd make any difference now plus charge the state a lot less.

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Re: 'Callous' India faces shame over ignored crash victims
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2013, 11:15:28 AM »
America is an infectiously litigous country, you can get sued (and win) over the silliest things. The classic is how a robber broke into a house, cut his hand on the broken window, sued, and got paid damages. A recent example.
Moral of the story: If you do shoot someone who breaks into your house, make sure you kill them.  Otherwise they will sue you.

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Re: 'Callous' India faces shame over ignored crash victims
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2013, 12:15:40 PM »
Here is advice I have heard. Two shots center mass and then two warning shots into the floor for the police report.

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« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2013, 11:31:10 PM »
Moral of the story: If you do shoot someone who breaks into your house, make sure you kill them.  Otherwise they will sue you.
:o that's what I heard ppl in China are doing. if you knock someone in road accident, make sure the person is dead. it's cheaper to pay for a dead person's funeral than the damage over the years

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Re: 'Callous' India faces shame over ignored crash victims
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2013, 01:23:32 AM »
Moral of the story: If you do shoot someone who breaks into your house, make sure you kill them.  Otherwise they will sue you.
:o that's what I heard ppl in China are doing. if you knock someone in road accident, make sure the person is dead. it's cheaper to pay for a dead person's funeral than the damage over the years

Actually, the same is true in Cambodia. My friend was driving his motorcycle in Cambodia and piled into a car. The car then ran over his head to try to kill him and then drove off. Luckily he had a decent helmet that cracked but still protected his head. Needless to say, he was quite sore for a while.
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Re: 'Callous' India faces shame over ignored crash victims
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2013, 01:34:10 AM »
Gosh! That's horrible